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Paul G lives in New York, USA. He was 57 when he was diagnosed in April, 2013. His initial PSA was 8.50 ng/ml, his Gleason Score was 6, and he was staged Unknown. His initial treatment choice was Surgery (Robotic Laparoscopic Prostatectomy) and his current treatment choice is None. Here is his story.

Eight years ago for the first time my PSA was elevated (PSA 5, my free PSA was 15% DRE have always been negative). That's when I had my first biopsy, 7 cores, they all came back negative. I then went to a top Urology group at a top Manhattan Hospital. The Urologist would check my PSA twice a year. For the most part it kept on rising (on a few occasions it dropped 10 to 20%) The PSA went from 5 up to 9 from 2005 until 2012. Over the next 7 years I had 4 saturation biopsy's done. (average 22-24 cores) all came back negative for cancer but on 3 of the biopsy's they found High Grade Pin.

In February of 2013 I went to my doctor for a routine yearly check up. My previous PSA was around 8.5. The blood work came back showing a PSA of 12.5. Having had a few problems over the years with the labs results for other blood work I asked my doctor to re-take the PSA test. Two weeks later the results came back from the second PSA test it was 8.2. Is this variation in such a short time possible, or do you think lab error is more likely the case? I scheduled an appointment (March 2013) with the Urologist and brought my recent blood work with me. He gave me an examination (DRE normal) and took blood-work. The PSA came back at 10. At that office visit and the previous visit the Urologist took a PCA3 test (I hope I have the name of the test and percentages correct, It's from memory) the first one came back at 36% and the second one 93%. So we did another biopsy (22 cores) in April 2013. This time the results came back with a finding of prostatic adenocarcinoma, with a single focus in 1 tissue core, 0.7 mm in largest dimension, less than 5% of the biopsy, Gleason combined 6 (3+3). The Urologist and I discussed treatment but he said normally I would recommend waiting, but "there is a disconnect from the findings and your PSA levels" so he recommended surgery. I took all of my information and had it sent to another highly rated Urologist at another Hospital. That Doctor explained that he is a proponent of waiting and continued testing but he also felt the PSA level and biopsy findings didn't make sense, and since the PSA was 10 he recommended surgery. I had been doing my "homework" and that is the way I was leaning.

I had my robotic surgery done in August 2013 (Prostate and seminal vessels, prostatectomy) The Surgical Pathology report had the following findings,

Tumor Type Adenocarcarcinoma, Primary Gleason grade 3, Secondary Gleason grade 3, Tumor Location right posterior, small foci. Capsule tumor confined to prostate, Seminal vessels bladder neck not involved

From what the Urologists said before the surgery and from what I could read about PSA and prostate cancer a Gleason score of 6 and a small foci tumor doesn't really add up to my PSA score. Any input would be appreciated.

What is more confusing is in the last biopsy it shows adenocarcinoma in the left peripheral zone, but in the Surgical Pathology report it reads, Tumor location, involves right posterior small foci. It doesn't mention adenocarcinoma in the left peripheral where it was originally found in the biopsy. Anybody have anything like this happen to them? From my limited knowledge of Staging the pT2a doesn't seem correct for the Pathology report. Am I correct?

In 2 weeks I will finally get to sit down with the surgeon for the first time to ask him questions. I have been speaking to his nurse since the surgery and she tells me to ask him these questions. If anyone can think of other pertinent questions for me to ask please let me know. If in fact the pathology report is correct than I consider myself fortunate with the findings. Thanks for listening and you all have helped me every step of the way so far with your input on this board, thank you!!

Paul

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December 2014

I had robotic surgery at Sloan Kettering Hosp. around Sep. of 2013. My PSA was as high as 12.5. I have no side effects and all my follow up PSA tests so far have been undetectable. I chose surgery because to me it was the best way to go to survive long term regardless of side effects so I could be here to take care of my family. All things considered with my surgery and recovery, it was far less painful and the recovery was easier than I had imagined. If anyone out there is considering surgery (or any type of treatment), as it has been stated here many times, if at all possible, go to a major cancer center and try to get a doctor with as much experience as possible. If possible, I recommend you go to Sloan Kettering. The doctors and staff were excellent. Good luck and God Bless!

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February 2016

It has been about 2-1/2 years since my robotic surgery. My follow up PSA tests have all come back undetectable so far.

My sexual function is about 85% of what it was before surgery. The only side effects I have now is if I drink alcohol to excess I will leak otherwise no leakage. It's happened twice both times after parties that I drank much more than usual.

Overall recovery from the robotic surgery was better than I had anticipated. Surgery was for me the way to go. Make sure if you opt for robotic surgery, if possible do it at a major cancer center and insist on a experienced surgeon who is VERY experienced.

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April 2017

I had my prostate removed robotically at Sloan Kettering Hosp. in 2013. I just had my 6 month PSA test and all of my PSA tests since the operation have been undetectable. My side effects, it's rare but sometimes after urination and I'm done and dressed again I will have slight leakage. I don't have a problem with erections 80 to 85% of the time. And the erection is about 80% of how it was prior to surgery. So far, for me removing my prostate was the way to go.

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March 2018

I just went for my 4 year 6 month PSA test. It's still undetectable. My condition is the same as my previous updates. So far so good. I wish the best to anybody reading this update.

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April 2019

Last August was my 5 year PSA test. Once again it was undetectable so now I go once a year for PSA instead of every 6 months. I chose radical prostatectomy because it was the treatment I felt was the best choice for long term health. Based on your teams opinion on if it was contained in the prostate should be an important part of your decision on treatment in my opinion. As I have stated my only side effect is slight urine leakage after urination, and not all the time. My erection is between 70 and 80% of my pre-surgical status. Once again I want to state, if you have the choice go to a cancer center that has a good to great reputation, with an experienced surgeon, DO IT. I have heard the commercials for Cyber Knife and other treatments that are LESS INVASIVE WITH CLAIMS OF SIMILAR RESULTS with a much lesser degree of side effects, which let's face it are very important to men. From what I understand the commercials are misleading, in that the claims of similar results to radical prostatectomy are misleading. From what I understand it's still radiation which changes the outcome percentages of recurrence after 5 and 10 years. Be pro-active about your decision. Once diagnosed some of my friends have told me that since it has less of a chance of side effects they are going with alternative ways of treating their condition. Don't believe everything you hear and do the research to make a decision that fits your diagnosis. That way you can always feel you made an informative decision for you and your particular diagnosis. In other words, you made an informative intelligent decision regardless of outcome, which you can live with. God Bless. This is just my opinion.

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May 2020

I believe August of this year (2020) will be 7 years since surgery. Not much has changed since my last update. The hospital where I had my surgery said I could now have my yearly blood test done at a lab like Quest. Last blood test undetectable for PSA. I have had problems with their results of blood tests in the past so I'm choosing to make the trip to the hospital to have the blood work done. i don't want to take a chance at a local lab that there could be a false reading. I'm staying with the specialist labs at the cancer hospital.

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September 2021

I believe its been 8 years since my surgery. Nothing has changed since my last update. So far everything is still good.

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October 2022

September 2022. My story is still the same. PSA tests are undetectable and all my functions are pretty much the same as previously stated.

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November 2023

My story is still the same. Nothing has changed. I believe my surgery was 10 years ago August. Like I've said previously, be proactive, and if possible have your treatment at a cancer cengter where they are experienced and have a good rating.

Paul's e-mail address is: corvette7003 AT yahoo.com (replace "AT" with "@")


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